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Originally Posted by stresseater
I too love that quote. However I see the patriot act as a way for us to defend ourselves before they come for us.....and they are comming. Law biding people have nothing to fear it is the people who would do us harm that this is designed to protect against. Will there be some cases where it is misused, yes. As with any law there will be mistakes, look at the three strikes law. There have been miscarriages of this law as well but the upper courts are suppose to be there for just that reason, to overrule lower courts when there is a miscarriage of justice.. The courts will rule in those cases and hopefully we can learn from those mistakes.   |
Are you aware that they can take you or anyone based on very little info just someones suspicion and lock you away for months without access to a lawyer or for that matter they don't even have to notify your family that they have you, in many cases that I have read about families found out months later where their loved one were. I can't see how denying anyone access to a lawyer or notifying your family that you are being detained is helping to keep anyone safe. Giving up our fundamental rights that have stood the test of time is not protecting anyone. Imagine for a moment that you order pizza on a fairly regular basis you have a really crazy suspicious neighbor, your pizza delivery guy is from the middle east or looks like he is. You like him he is a nice guy, you slip him a big tip on occassion and a card, you feel sorry for him he is very lonely and starved for his family and misses them, you have gotten to know him well. One day they come to your door because the nosy neighbor has decided something is not right, in investigating they find he has a distant cousin who might be a terrorist. You have been seen chatting with him about current events and his native land and passing him notes and money. She has overheard you discussing 911 with him, she has overheard you innocently telling him all about your trip to DC and how amazed you are at the layout of the city, next thing you know you are locked away for months with no access to a lawyer, no access to family or friends, you are just locked away in a cell until they want to deal with you. Please tell how that is helping anyone. I realize we have to protect ourselves, but not at the expense of fundamental rights. They said right after 911 the way to fight the terrorist was to go on and do as we had done before but yet now we are supposed to give up our rights, how is that protecting anyone? How is that fighting terrorism?